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and what do you bring to the table? guest: how about the truth, for starters. the notion that obama and mitt romney are arguing over who will spend more on medicare. when we need to have a raging debate in this country on how we cut medicare spending, spending, i think we will find ourselves in the midst of a monetary collapse. that issue/ what is your prescription? pardon the expression. guest: i oversaw the reform of medicaid when i was governor of new mexico. we saved hundreds of millions of dollars. we set a better health-care networks for the poor. i believe if the government blocked -- done away with the strings and the manas, i could have overseen the delivery of health care to the poor. -- do away with the mandates. health care for those over 65. get the federal government out of health care completely. get is how we're going to out of this. giving it up to the states. 50 laboratories of innovation. i think that is exactly what we will have. we will have some fabulous success. we will also have some horrible failures. that's how we will find ourselves out of this. host: gary
insurance, the reason why i am leaning toward obama -- and i really do not know what obamacare is, but from what i understand ifrom mitt romney, he doesn't believe in any care. my husband has high blood pressure. he was not a mechanic ever insurance we went to, and he could not pass the physical. the insurance company would not injure him. i tried to buy him insurance. as soon as he said he was employed independent, nobody would injure him. that is my big issue. when people have worked their whole lives and they get sick, we should be able to buy insurance. host: dr. makary, what role -- and if you want to address her specific point, that is fine, but what role do the insurance companies play in this unaccountableness, as you call it? guest: we have had no good ways to measure the quality of health care. the insurance companies have been eager to get into the business of looking at performance and use it as a way to pay hospitals and doctors. the problem is, we have not had a good measure until now. there is a very exciting revolution taking place in medical care now. it is in medicare webs
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